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Floep · Aug 15, 2009, 08:13 AM // 08:13

Hey,

Im kinda new too this game, and i like to know if pvp characters are able too buy skills?

Can't find a NPC that is selling Skills, soo was asking here

scythefromunder · Aug 15, 2009, 08:44 AM // 08:44

You either have to win in the different forms of PvP to gain balthazar faction and use them for skill unlocks from the Priests of Balthazar, or go into PvE and buy the skill you are looking for gold.s

Floep · Aug 15, 2009, 08:48 AM // 08:48

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Originally Posted by scythefromunder

You either have to win in the different forms of PvP to gain balthazar faction and use them for skill unlocks from the Priests of Balthazar, or go into PvE and buy the skill you are looking for gold.s

Soo, u need too unlock everything on a PvE char, before u can buy it on the PvP character?

subarucar · Aug 15, 2009, 08:51 AM // 08:51

No, you can do it either way. If you buy a skill on a PvE character, it is unlocked for your PvP character. If you buy a skill on your PvP character, it is unlocked on your PvP characters (not your PvE characters though).

scythefromunder · Aug 15, 2009, 08:52 AM // 08:52

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Originally Posted by Floep

Soo, u need too unlock everything on a PvE char, before u can buy it on the PvP character?

No
You can unlock a skill either from PvP or PvE.
You dont have to unlock it from PvE.

Floep · Aug 15, 2009, 09:20 AM // 09:20

Okay, thanks.

So i need just to PVP, and then buy the tomes for buying a skill?

Ghost Dog · Aug 15, 2009, 09:31 AM // 09:31

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Originally Posted by Floep

Okay, thanks.

So i need just to PVP, and then buy the tomes for buying a skill?

If you PvP in the arenas or GvG and heroes ascent you will earn balthazar faction to trade for skills.

Floep · Aug 15, 2009, 09:35 AM // 09:35

And were is that priest if you can tell me?

I saw some silver coins, how i get those?

EDIT:

Nvm, i just found the priest, thanks for helping

*Darcy* · Aug 15, 2009, 10:26 AM // 10:26

1. Any skill unlocked using Balthazar faction (PvP) or purchased with gold (PvE) is available for all PvP characters on your account.

2. You cannot use tomes for a PvP character, they are only for PvE.

3. Zaishen Coins are earned by doing the daily Zaishen Challenges. Zaishen Combat is the only one for PvP characters. The Combat ones can be repeated by getting the reward, then rezoning and taking the quest again.

Highlander Of Alba · Aug 15, 2009, 12:19 PM // 12:19

Just a tad of additional info for you.

for e.g If you have the campaigns and you have a spare slot

By creating a pvp char the skills you unlock by balt faction ...your PVE char cannot use them...But...your heros on PVE can use them

So if you like pvp any skill you unlock only your heros will be able to use that includes the elite skills. in pve

So keep a PVP char if you do both pve and pvp and only you pve char has to obtain the skills your want.

Hope this helps you a little

MagmaRed · Aug 15, 2009, 01:59 PM // 13:59

PvP characters don't have to buy skills.... ever. They have access to ALL skills that are unlocked on the account. There are two ways to unlock skills. First would be through Balthazar Faction and a Priest of Balthazar. It takes 1000 Faction for each skill, and 3000 for each elite skill. The second way to unlock skills is to acquire them on a PvE character. PvE characters can acquire skills through quests, Skill Trainers (costs a skill point and gold for each skill, max cost is 1 platinum), and Hero Skill Trainers (these offer PvE only skills as well, which won't be available to a PvP character, but can get regular skills too). Tomes would do you no good. Tomes only teach you a skill if you have already unlocked the skill on the account. Since PvP characters already have access to ALL skills unlocked on the account, you would already know the skill the Tome would teach you. Tomes are to allow PvE characters to acquire skills earlier than normal as some skills can only be learned from Trainers late in the game.

It is normally recommended that new players do one of 2 things to start PvP. 1) would be to play PvE. This teaches you how skills work together, and you get a feel for what the other classes offer. Most importantly, it allows you to acquire a lot of skills fairly easy. 2) Buy the PvP Access Kits from the in game store. This gives you access to all the skills for the campaign you purchase the kit for. That means you can PvP and already have access to skill without spending time unlocking them.

If you only care about PvP, I'd buy a PvP Access Kit to save yourself some time. If you want to do some PvE as well, I'd suggest doing a LOT of that first. Playing PvE can also get you to spots that are available to PvP characters, but also some that aren't. The Ascalon Arena, Shing Jea Arena, and Istani Arena all are for level 10 and under characters, and the Shiverpeak Arena is for 15 and under.

Floep · Aug 15, 2009, 06:23 PM // 18:23

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

PvP characters don't have to buy skills.... ever. They have access to ALL skills that are unlocked on the account. There are two ways to unlock skills. First would be through Balthazar Faction and a Priest of Balthazar. It takes 1000 Faction for each skill, and 3000 for each elite skill. The second way to unlock skills is to acquire them on a PvE character. PvE characters can acquire skills through quests, Skill Trainers (costs a skill point and gold for each skill, max cost is 1 platinum), and Hero Skill Trainers (these offer PvE only skills as well, which won't be available to a PvP character, but can get regular skills too). Tomes would do you no good. Tomes only teach you a skill if you have already unlocked the skill on the account. Since PvP characters already have access to ALL skills unlocked on the account, you would already know the skill the Tome would teach you. Tomes are to allow PvE characters to acquire skills earlier than normal as some skills can only be learned from Trainers late in the game.

It is normally recommended that new players do one of 2 things to start PvP. 1) would be to play PvE. This teaches you how skills work together, and you get a feel for what the other classes offer. Most importantly, it allows you to acquire a lot of skills fairly easy. 2) Buy the PvP Access Kits from the in game store. This gives you access to all the skills for the campaign you purchase the kit for. That means you can PvP and already have access to skill without spending time unlocking them.

If you only care about PvP, I'd buy a PvP Access Kit to save yourself some time. If you want to do some PvE as well, I'd suggest doing a LOT of that first. Playing PvE can also get you to spots that are available to PvP characters, but also some that aren't. The Ascalon Arena, Shing Jea Arena, and Istani Arena all are for level 10 and under characters, and the Shiverpeak Arena is for 15 and under.

Thanks for your great answer.

Another questing i'd like to know now is, what kind off gear PvP char can get?
Is this also with the rep from Balthazar Faction?

Moonstalker · Aug 15, 2009, 06:32 PM // 18:32

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Originally Posted by Floep

Thanks for your great answer.

Another questing i'd like to know now is, what kind off gear PvP char can get?
Is this also with the rep from Balthazar Faction?

The gear you get is most all of the early non-elite gear from PvE. You can build your character up when you make it if you press 'J' while on your PvP character and in a town/outpost. Insignias and runes are unlocked the same way as skills are. By unlocking through PvE or by unlocking through Balthazar Faction via the priest.

However, if you have tournament points you can get elite gear, and rare skins. But that's another story

Floep · Aug 15, 2009, 06:58 PM // 18:58

So the only way too get better gear is by Tournament points?

Moonstalker · Aug 15, 2009, 09:04 PM // 21:04

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Originally Posted by Floep

So the only way too get better gear is by Tournament points?

"Better" gear, no. "Better looking" gear, yes. All the gear you get from a PvP character is maxed in armor/defense, and weapons are all Required 9 with max damage.

Kendil · Aug 16, 2009, 08:36 AM // 08:36

If you press J on a PvP char, you can change your armor. The armor types that are availble without tournament points is the non-elite ones.

And, it is not only skills that needs to be unlocked to play PvP successfully, but you need to unlock, runes, insignias and weapon mods too. You do that by a priest of balthazar using balthazar factions, or by identifying a blu, purple or gold item in PvE. The mod showing up will be unlocked for your account.

Aug 15, 2009, 08:13 AM // 08:13	#1
Floep Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2009	Premade characters? Hey, Im kinda new too this game, and i like to know if pvp characters are able too buy skills? Can't find a NPC that is selling Skills, soo was asking here

Aug 15, 2009, 09:35 AM // 09:35	#8
Floep Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2009	And were is that priest if you can tell me? I saw some silver coins, how i get those? EDIT: Nvm, i just found the priest, thanks for helping Last edited by Floep; Aug 15, 2009 at 09:51 AM // 09:51..

Aug 15, 2009, 10:26 AM // 10:26	#9
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	1. Any skill unlocked using Balthazar faction (PvP) or purchased with gold (PvE) is available for all PvP characters on your account. 2. You cannot use tomes for a PvP character, they are only for PvE. 3. Zaishen Coins are earned by doing the daily Zaishen Challenges. Zaishen Combat is the only one for PvP characters. The Combat ones can be repeated by getting the reward, then rezoning and taking the quest again. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Aug 15, 2009, 08:44 AM // 08:44	#2
scythefromunder Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CA Guild: Tears Of The Ascended [ToA]	You either have to win in the different forms of PvP to gain balthazar faction and use them for skill unlocks from the Priests of Balthazar, or go into PvE and buy the skill you are looking for gold.s

Aug 15, 2009, 08:51 AM // 08:51	#4
subarucar Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Zealand Guild: None	No, you can do it either way. If you buy a skill on a PvE character, it is unlocked for your PvP character. If you buy a skill on your PvP character, it is unlocked on your PvP characters (not your PvE characters though).

Aug 15, 2009, 09:20 AM // 09:20	#6
Floep Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2009	Okay, thanks. So i need just to PVP, and then buy the tomes for buying a skill?

Aug 15, 2009, 12:19 PM // 12:19	#10
Highlander Of Alba Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Real Rogue Clan Profession: Rt/Mo	Just a tad of additional info for you. for e.g If you have the campaigns and you have a spare slot By creating a pvp char the skills you unlock by balt faction ...your PVE char cannot use them...But...your heros on PVE can use them So if you like pvp any skill you unlock only your heros will be able to use that includes the elite skills. in pve So keep a PVP char if you do both pve and pvp and only you pve char has to obtain the skills your want. Hope this helps you a little

Aug 15, 2009, 01:59 PM // 13:59	#11
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	PvP characters don't have to buy skills.... ever. They have access to ALL skills that are unlocked on the account. There are two ways to unlock skills. First would be through Balthazar Faction and a Priest of Balthazar. It takes 1000 Faction for each skill, and 3000 for each elite skill. The second way to unlock skills is to acquire them on a PvE character. PvE characters can acquire skills through quests, Skill Trainers (costs a skill point and gold for each skill, max cost is 1 platinum), and Hero Skill Trainers (these offer PvE only skills as well, which won't be available to a PvP character, but can get regular skills too). Tomes would do you no good. Tomes only teach you a skill if you have already unlocked the skill on the account. Since PvP characters already have access to ALL skills unlocked on the account, you would already know the skill the Tome would teach you. Tomes are to allow PvE characters to acquire skills earlier than normal as some skills can only be learned from Trainers late in the game. It is normally recommended that new players do one of 2 things to start PvP. 1) would be to play PvE. This teaches you how skills work together, and you get a feel for what the other classes offer. Most importantly, it allows you to acquire a lot of skills fairly easy. 2) Buy the PvP Access Kits from the in game store. This gives you access to all the skills for the campaign you purchase the kit for. That means you can PvP and already have access to skill without spending time unlocking them. If you only care about PvP, I'd buy a PvP Access Kit to save yourself some time. If you want to do some PvE as well, I'd suggest doing a LOT of that first. Playing PvE can also get you to spots that are available to PvP characters, but also some that aren't. The Ascalon Arena, Shing Jea Arena, and Istani Arena all are for level 10 and under characters, and the Shiverpeak Arena is for 15 and under.

Aug 15, 2009, 06:58 PM // 18:58	#14
Floep Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2009	So the only way too get better gear is by Tournament points?

Aug 16, 2009, 08:36 AM // 08:36	#16
Kendil Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sweden	If you press J on a PvP char, you can change your armor. The armor types that are availble without tournament points is the non-elite ones. And, it is not only skills that needs to be unlocked to play PvP successfully, but you need to unlock, runes, insignias and weapon mods too. You do that by a priest of balthazar using balthazar factions, or by identifying a blu, purple or gold item in PvE. The mod showing up will be unlocked for your account.